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Make It A Respectable Website For All
Hi there,
         I would just like to say my piece on the moderation of the FlyorDie website. The language used by some of the fellow players is at an all time low. This should and can be stopped once and for all! I don't appreciate being spoken to in such a way by others, just because they are upset about losing a game or having poor luck during a game. Ok people will say use ur mute button and take a screenshot etc! but why should i have to! I pay a subcribtion fee for certain entitlments like (no flashing adverts)amongst or things. By being a regular subcriber to your website Flyordie, i am more than slightly disappointed by this continuing presence of foul language and poor games manship that is accepted by you. 

Hear are some suggestions i would ask flyordie to consider.

Increase the volume of words already banned from typing.

Variations of all swear words should be added to that list.  

For example (example eliminated) should also be listed.

With these suggestions added and any others anybody has in mind, we can make this site more pleasant for the huge community of fellow gamers that enjoy the site.

I understand that moderators will do there job to great affect, but there isnt enough of them here and i don't think it would be to much to ask for these additional standards to be put in place, considering the fact that i continue to pay and support this website. 

Thankyou for reading this everyone, be nice and happy gaming!
 

<<<<<I agree completly but removed the example because we all know just what you mean and didn't want to give a lesson in avoiding the filter to the few who haven't already seen it>>>>>>>>>>

[Edited by: LadyDie on Mar 28, 2007 8:51 AM]
Thankyou LadyDie for accepting my post, sorry for the examples! hopefully people will know what im talking about and flyordie should maybe increase the ban on the variations of the foul words that people use. Its not smart or funny and it brings the tone of the website down. It can upset and intimidate fellow users and i would go as far to class it as internet bullying! The muted demerit act against the few players that are found out does not appear to discourage this behaviour as many of these players have and can use alternative nicknames.
Well sometimes the filter can ba annoying when for example, you type a perfectly good sentence and because a set of letters are near each other (last 2 letters of one word and the first two letters of another) it filters the whole sentence.

Can this be imrpoved? The efficiency of the current filter should be improved (if it can) before adding more words, in my opinion anyway :)
i agree hopscottie a nice pleasant game without any chance of being abused by theses kids
 i agree 100% but i dont think it will ever happen.
   
I fully agree with you, when it comes to foul language, too many people use abbreviations that can and should be easily caught by the filter. Yet they aren't why is that?? As already noted certain combinations of words causes the whole sentence to be deleted and yet if they  choose to use abbreviations  then any number of swear words can be flung at people with no apparent action taken. FOD has the means to filter these and should do so. Examples hmmm too many to enumerate, some seem innocent enough, but are vulgar. Come on FOD, clean up this site a bit. signed theOtherGuy
Yes apart from Martin Duffy's helpful contribution to the topic everyone who posts agrees that they would like flyordie to do sumthing about this problem. I think Martin was trying to start a flooding of the post so that the mods would lock it. Thats easy enough to do Martin, why comment on this post if you don't have any positive suggestions regarding the matter. 

Maybe there are so many offenders that flyordie are reluctant to take active measures for obvious reasons!

I mean the snooker rooms would be half empty! lol

How about using one of the other rooms that lie empty all day for folk who just wanna play without the hassle!

I can only comment on the snooker rooms as i mostly play in them, i expect that its much the same story in other game rooms too.

Anyway thankyou 4 your posts people! atleast i know there are others who share this view about the language.
come on hop i aint trying to start a flood ffs.  thing is people need to chill and enjoy the game instead of moaning constantly.  every day almost theres a new topic about whingers.  please stop contributing mate 


the duff 
Duff i ain't whinging my friend, it's not right talkin like that to others. Besides if you ain't interested in these kind of posts m8! then nobody asks your opinion. The forum is here for everybody who has views and opinions about the website! 

If you just wanna play and get on with it then thats your entitlment to do so m8! but don't post stuff on other peoples posts that don't have anything what so ever to do with the discussion! 


<<<<<<FYI guys it is whine.>>>>>>>>>

I think you have to respect the fact that parents maybe let there kids play on this site and don't appreciate their kids being spoken to in such ways m8! 

As for you Martin maybe because your not offended by such behaviour suggests to me that maybe your treated badly by others on a regular basis and take it as normal everyday stuff that your used to.

Maybe you have seen enough of these types of posts to do you a life time! lol, and i can understand why you would react to such posts with negative feedback. 

But maybe just maybe something can be done to reinforce the reputation of this great site, thus making it even more enjoyable for children as well as adults.

Anyway Martin i know your a fair and honest player who just enjoys playing! i ain't having a pop at you my friend, just suggesting that you maybe reply some positive feedback in future posts or maybe read them and leave it like that!

[Edited by: LadyDie on Mar 31, 2007 5:23 PM]
they need to make a game where the object is to be as offensive as possible to win points. then all the rude people can go there and leave the rest of us to play in peace.

they could call it "your mama" or something like that
lol treated badly by others are u serious???? i am a father also of 3.  thing is if a person is dull enough to let theyre kids play on such a site where abuse is thrown about then they should expect all they get.  i dont use many sites on the net but i am sure that not many are policed they way this site is. fly or die are doing a great job at what they do.  but as always its not enough people want more and more outa them.  if every person who played fly or die made a suggestion to improve fly or die u think they be able to do em all ???  point is simple fly or die is what it is accept it.  

,,,,,,,thank you for the support and I agree with you children should not play on any site unsupervised.>>>>>>

[Edited by: LadyDie on Apr 1, 2007 8:06 AM]
and yes i have seen enough of these posts and to be honest its doing peoples heads in.
what you need to remember is that games are played by children. FOD is accessed via many different affiliate game sites such as free arcade where their games are alongside some very childish games. If children cant play on here it will be a very sad day. And the site would probably close down. What parent can honestly guard against which site a child uses. No filter would block a gaming site. And why should we block our children playing games, why do you put your hands up and let the rude people win so easily. stand up for what you believe dont give up. That is the kind of attitude that let Hitler rise to power. 
if you knew anything about children and parenting you would know that no parent has the time to supervise every second of play time and children are very able to find there way around a computer. Stop passing the buck. Add more offensive words to the prohibited list, make the mute button stay after you log off making a list of bad people (as in party poker), stop moderators congregating in one room, and how about banning the offenders hmmm that might work?????
Martin people are not dull because they are unaware of the contents of a particular website m8! The very fact that the flyordie homepage has games that would attract a younger audience suggests to me that the website is suppost to appeal to both the young and the old! An example of that would be boulderdash and chess! 

Therfore it would be considered responsibile to moderate the website to that affect! For example you wouldn't call an adult film by a childrens title like "charlie and the chocolate factory" and put scenes of heavy violence and foul swear words in it would you??? 

No that would be considered inappropriate to mislead the public in such a way! Thats why we have 12,15, and 18 certificates stamped on such things, so us dull people as you put it m8! get the picture. This layed back attitude you have regarding this post does annoy me and worry me!

If you were to verbally, write or send an e-mail with threatening words contained within to anyone! say a neighbour for example, the police would be on your door step sure enuff! leading to caution even a visit to the court Martin!

So i guess it should be taken a bit more seriously than you are suggesting m8! 
DONT WORRY HOP I THINK MARTINS BEEN HANGING AROUND MACKY TO MUCH ..... MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY HE'S CHANGED
i also can tell you hop that i have had to threaten legal action against another player because of using slander backing up someone elses campaign to just cause me grief all the time....thats when the screenshots are really useful....and i will use it if i have too
i dont believe in supervising everything...when i am controlled i revolt...and young people do for sure..i hate big brother... and i like a certain style..
Threatening legal action because someone's taunting you on an online game?!?!?

What next? :|
bloodsimple! u hav hit the nail on the head! man wat the beep!!! the internet the place 4 kids to express ther repelin thoughts without adult supervision"!!! The place 4 coded msn nicks with tranverse language to puzzle us adults!!!i wanna be !!!""%%^%&&****(9 cz\a cause that just sums up my head!!! and yes my voice hav went deep!!!
I don't believe that would go through a court, at least I don't think a judge would be willing to hear the case let alone a jury that wouldn't say "get over it".  Internet is on it's own jurisdiction of laws, though it is confined to agreements between nations it is a difficult thing to bring a case against because it is ever-changing thus evolving to a new level of criminal acts.  
blood they were'nt taunting me it was a direct threat to harm me and my family....taunting i can handle but i'm afraid this went to far....i spoke to fod about it and as far as i can see they have done something about it because i havent seen this player since....so for them to possibly ban him it must have been bad...i believe the moderation on here works to a degree but it is very hard to control all the abuse on here....hop has come up with a few good ideas and it would'nt be a bad idea if you were to help by suggesting a few yourself...and again hop was right "internet bullying" i know i've been on the end of it so get real man it does happen
fearlothin....."a new level of criminal acts" not really mate but what the internet has done is that its given a lot more scope to ppl to abuse others by sitting behind a screen and thinking they can get away with it...i'm right behind hop on this one IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED....and by the way a good example are peado's which is being addressed by the police already so why should'nt the authorities address threats as well , as hop said you would'nt say it in a letter to someone because you would be in a lot of trouble if you did but its the same here surely ?
Because quite frankly threats are air, there is no weapon present there is no crime to commit.  Peado's actions are in violation of quite a few acts put on the web to safely secure childeren to surf the web at their leisure, threats are just heresay and thus a hard thing to prove in the court of law.  Think about it: if everytime you got called a name in school you tried to take someone to court over it; what evidence would you have against the person?  A paper with a threat, and it would probably be looked at but more than likely wouldn't go past the pre-trial without being dropped by the judge.  I'm studying law, as easy as it is to threaten someone online it is not so easy to bring criminal charges against said person.
My goodness, I'm actually going to be serious here,


I think that criticisms, so long as they are put forward well, are a good thing and can only help flyordie. However, I think that far too many suggestions and criticisms are now being put in the "dear moderators" section, when they should be posted in the "requests/suggestions" forum.

Also, I think that moderators get it in the neck far too much. They MODERATE, not RUN the site. On the whole, moderation is good, naturally there are a few who probably don't do their job as well as they should, but that's to be expected. 

What I'm saying is, Martin's right as far as this site isn't/never will be perfect and that you should accept it for what it is (an online snooker site, something which I think people forget) but also, there wouldnt be a suggestions section if FOD didnt think it useful. 


Suggestion to flyordie: Use the tool you've created to better effect. (requests/suggestions) As I believe this is where the frustrations of many users (subscribers in particular) lie. 




For these are the words of



The Meister B-)



**Falling over**

Dave was actually serious???

What is this world coming to??? 

I'm just playing with ya m8...I think you have some sound and VERY logical advice there!

;)
~Danny~
i cant believe that this game is taken so seriously.  and bob i aint changed m8 and if i had it certainly wont be because of macky hes a sound guy like i thought u was ! its a frigging game grow up people
ok martin not a problem.....you dont know the half what i've been through with macky and his silly childish supporters....and you think he's sound....and m8 if you know me i dont lie
Martin it is just a game your right mate! so why all the threatening behavoir? As for growing up! i don't find this discussion immature, to say your fed up with this type of topic is fair enough, but i think this matter makes better use of the flyordie forum than the majority of posts i see now within this section. 

For example how many people are fed up reading posts regarding over inflated ego's e.g "the best of the best" and "the best of the best of the best" that seem to litter the forums now! Yawn, but it seems to generate a lot of interest with the type of players that do take winning a game seriously.

All im asking for is for flyordie to make there foul language filter fishing net a bit bigger, an maybe a fair play league for good sportsmanship to exsist. There are many rooms that do not get used, wasted server space that could be put to better use. I would also like to see sum kind of caution that the site does try to enforce propoer conduct within the games rooms! on their homepage.
i aint threatening nobody its just my opinion same as your view is
No Martin mate he doesnt mean YOU are being threatening, he means it is just a game, so why do so many people behave in an agrresive and threatening manner.

B-)
Thankyou dave, but i could have put that better, not you martin but in general. Anyway you guys took my points last nite! i'd had one Sherry to many! Hiccup! sorry. 

Just imagine a big scots lad, sun burned, steaming, with my kilt an flip flops on, eating a salad supper fae the chippy (new diet), tryin to pit my wits against you too at the auld snooker.
LOL, I can see it all now, hopscottie burning at 15 degrees, what with being used to the cold.

Salad with a nice garnish, and a side order of shortbread ty


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